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they chose in a weak economy in 2010 not to do that because they knew that would hurt the economy. quite frankly, we have the same economy now that we had two years ago. consumer confidence is up, but total gdp growth has done down the last two years slightly but continuing to go down. we're not in a better spot right now to raise taxes like two years ago. >> tom coburn is talking about getting the rates up for the top 2%. here he is on abc news. just want to play it. >> okay. >> sorry. i'll read it to you. it's a graphic. we have no leverage on that, so whether we want taxes to go up or not, they're going to. we can't stop it from happening. the real elephant in the room is entitlements. taxes go up at the beginning of the year if you don't do a deal. the only deal is have them go up on fewer people than they otherwise would. that seems to be something that a republican would -- you don't have a lot of leverage? >> that's the challenge dealing with democrats like howard dean and others that say let's raise it on everybody. that creates this situation where we haves in a bad idea.
they chose in a weak economy in 2010 not to do that because they knew that would hurt the economy. quite frankly, we have the same economy now that we had two years ago. consumer confidence is up, but total gdp growth has done down the last two years slightly but continuing to go down. we're not in a better spot right now to raise taxes like two years ago. >> tom coburn is talking about getting the rates up for the top 2%. here he is on abc news. just want to play it. >> okay....
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it would slow down the economy. >> when you look at economist's evaluations, it would slouw dow the economy. it would. there's no question about it. but if the problem is that we have a lot of debt and there has to be some pain whether it be in cuts or the form of higher tax revenues, it means there has to be some pain. $2.8 trillion. that's 17% of our debt wiped out overnight. if you're worried about the debt, how can't you look at that seriously? >> well, the reason i would say it's not going to be 17% of our debt on that because right now, we're running a trillion dollar deficit year single year. if we went back to zero, we're rebalanced. right now with the fourth year in a row, that deficit and debt continues to climb. so it doesn't really wipe it out and the challenge of it is what does that do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase as well. a lot of people lose track of that. the affordable care about actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more. or people having large medical bills. this is talking about an additional tax incr
it would slow down the economy. >> when you look at economist's evaluations, it would slouw dow the economy. it would. there's no question about it. but if the problem is that we have a lot of debt and there has to be some pain whether it be in cuts or the form of higher tax revenues, it means there has to be some pain. $2.8 trillion. that's 17% of our debt wiped out overnight. if you're worried about the debt, how can't you look at that seriously? >> well, the reason i would say...
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despite joblessness, low wages and everything bad about the economy. holiday sales right now are looking pretty good. the national retail sales federation predicts when all is said and done, they'll be up about 5% this year. so why are some retailers so worried? because there is a rapidly growing giant out there, gobbling up customers like nothing before. so much so, that this may be one of the last christmases you'll ever see with shopping quite like this. >> reporter: america's holiday mall mania is as traditional as tinsel, consumers spending more than a half trillion dollars this year will fuel more than a half million seasonal jobs, but the real frenzy is at home, amazon.com. >> what is amazon up to? >> the ambition it seems is to take over the systems of comp assumption. >> barnie jobson a reporter for the financial times has just written a book about amazon's extraordinary rise. >> amazon's sales have been growing about 20% to 30% a year and this is phenomenal when you consider the rest of the retail sector is growing at best 5% a year. there is
despite joblessness, low wages and everything bad about the economy. holiday sales right now are looking pretty good. the national retail sales federation predicts when all is said and done, they'll be up about 5% this year. so why are some retailers so worried? because there is a rapidly growing giant out there, gobbling up customers like nothing before. so much so, that this may be one of the last christmases you'll ever see with shopping quite like this. >> reporter: america's holiday...
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including republicans led by gop governor rick snyder maintain that this bill will wind up helping the economy and not hurting it, right. >> that's right allison. the governor insists that the right to work bill will save jobs and increase salaries by not forcing union dues on workers. here's michigan governor rick snyder. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> susan, are we going to see more of the same this week? what kind of turnout are you expecting to see at michigan's capitol when lawmakers are expected to vote? >> a huge turnout is expected. some people are predicting 7,000 demonstrates, last week when supporters and protesters jammed the can toll. some people are talking about recall campaigns like we saw in wisconsin or even legal challenges, so we'll see what comes up. >>> in washington state, same-sex marriage is now legal and at the stroke of midnight couples started to getting married. after 11 years together. sarah and emily becam
including republicans led by gop governor rick snyder maintain that this bill will wind up helping the economy and not hurting it, right. >> that's right allison. the governor insists that the right to work bill will save jobs and increase salaries by not forcing union dues on workers. here's michigan governor rick snyder. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my...
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what impact will that have on the economy overall? and really, quite frankly, if these tax cuts expire for everyone, it means the middle class will see an enormous tax increase upwards of $2,200 per family on average. that's unacceptable either. my sense is that, having been around for 14 years, we will get to some point of an agreement. the real will be whether john boehner will rely on democratic votes to get this passed. >> i guess the question is -- and everybody would agree on the tax thing. taxing the middle class, there's nobody standing up and saying, yes, taxes should go up on the middle class. let's put that in one category. the next category, which "the wall street journal" points out, is the spending issue. what gets cut? if we have a spending deficit of $1.3 trillions. we're over on our budget $1.3 trillion. what aggressively will democrats bring to the table for cuts realistically once the tax issue is passed? >> well, i can think of something that should have been done a while ago, which is that there should be a change
what impact will that have on the economy overall? and really, quite frankly, if these tax cuts expire for everyone, it means the middle class will see an enormous tax increase upwards of $2,200 per family on average. that's unacceptable either. my sense is that, having been around for 14 years, we will get to some point of an agreement. the real will be whether john boehner will rely on democratic votes to get this passed. >> i guess the question is -- and everybody would agree on the...
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he's going to talk about the economy and fiscal cliff within the hour. we'll go to that live. >>> first to florida. that's where we learn new details about a long running mystery. in the town marianna and they have found more grave sites on the grounds a school that closed last century. nobody knows how many boys may be buried there and what abuse he suffer the at that school. ed lavandera spent years investigating the story, and he has the details. >> a mystery haunting the ground of this now defunct school for boys in marianna involving teenage boys sent here decades ago, some never seen again. in recent years former students in "twilight" years have come forward with horrific stories of punishing aaabuse doled out by school leaders and friends that vanished, stories told by cnn. they accused former school leaders of beatings, sexual abuse and even murder. which brings us to this cemetery on the school's grounds. the bodies of 31 boys are buried here. florida authorities claim they know how all the boys died, some killed in a fire and symptom in a flu
he's going to talk about the economy and fiscal cliff within the hour. we'll go to that live. >>> first to florida. that's where we learn new details about a long running mystery. in the town marianna and they have found more grave sites on the grounds a school that closed last century. nobody knows how many boys may be buried there and what abuse he suffer the at that school. ed lavandera spent years investigating the story, and he has the details. >> a mystery haunting the...
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that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want -- businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel, right here, creating jobs, right here, in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing up manufacturing back to america, that's why i'm here today. since 1938, detroit diesel has been turning out some of the best engines in the world. over all those years, generations of redford workers have walked through these doors. not just to punch a clock, not just to pick up a paycheck, not just to build an engine, but to build a middle class life for their families, to earn a shot at the american dream. for 7 1/2 decades, through good times and bad, through revolutions and technology that sent a lot of good jobs, manufacturing jobs overseas, men and women like you, your parents, maybe even your gran
that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want -- businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel, right here, creating jobs, right here, in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing up manufacturing back to america, that's why i'm here today. since 1938, detroit...
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-- have such a forceful impact on the economy. that is a political decision more than it's an economic discussion right now. >> peter, i'm going to give you the last word. >> it's really a political issue. this is not the right time to be cutting. maybe another six months. however, the president sees this as an opportunity to get the cuts in ways that he likes best because he won the election. fair enough. so the president sees a political opportunity. i think there's some danger here by not just renewing all these tax cuts and sitting down and talking about tax reform and spending cuts by midyear, that there's a real danger that we could tumble the economy. >> all right. peter, ali, thank you so much. we'll be waiting. obviously, days away to see what's going to happen here. thank you. >>> one of the most staunchly conservative members of the u.s. senate calling it quits. senator jim diment announced he will resign from congress at the end of the month. he is leaving to take over the think tank the heritage foundation. he says he
-- have such a forceful impact on the economy. that is a political decision more than it's an economic discussion right now. >> peter, i'm going to give you the last word. >> it's really a political issue. this is not the right time to be cutting. maybe another six months. however, the president sees this as an opportunity to get the cuts in ways that he likes best because he won the election. fair enough. so the president sees a political opportunity. i think there's some danger...
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slow growing economy. using less of it. and a lot of the bottlenecks, refinery problems, clearing up. the national arriverage, $3.30. and people in the industry continue to expect to watch prices to fall. and on it is west coast, biggest drops. still higher this year than last, but trend, they have been cut here. >> one thing we need to know about our money? >> the one thing about money, the choice of a college degree affects how much money you make. engineering majors earn 3.5 million over a 40-year career. median earnings for all majors, 2.4 million. and education, 1.8 million. this goes into our discussion, should be lower tuition for students in the in-demand fields. they should make more money. >> not all about money. let's be clear. science, technology, math, fantastic things, but we need to be careful about undervaluing things like english, languages, arts. >> one of the reasons why we are so innovative. all of the stem majors, but they say how do we make a university system like the american university system and th
slow growing economy. using less of it. and a lot of the bottlenecks, refinery problems, clearing up. the national arriverage, $3.30. and people in the industry continue to expect to watch prices to fall. and on it is west coast, biggest drops. still higher this year than last, but trend, they have been cut here. >> one thing we need to know about our money? >> the one thing about money, the choice of a college degree affects how much money you make. engineering majors earn 3.5...
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an i buss in the plants and here's an opportunity to give back, you know, something to the american economy. the way you look at things is, you know, the company is going to be spending $100 million in terms of bringing back jobs to the u.s. some may say $100 million, you know, is not a lot of money considering that apple has more than $100 billion in the bank. but i think this is a positive sign in terms of how many workers we're talking about here -- >> how many jobs? >> reporter: we don't know precisely or the skills necessary. it's a great question. probably in the thousands of jobs. remember, this is one existing mac line. this is not the iphone or ipad. one line but probably in the thousands, brooke. >> in the thousands. and so, apple chock eed up the one-day stock drop. do you think the shift, has to be a profitable move for apple hopefully. >> reporter: well, you know, there are two ways of looking at it. you are using cheap labor in china. not going to have that in the united states and also you're talking about adding infrastructure costs. how that might impact the bottom line, yo
an i buss in the plants and here's an opportunity to give back, you know, something to the american economy. the way you look at things is, you know, the company is going to be spending $100 million in terms of bringing back jobs to the u.s. some may say $100 million, you know, is not a lot of money considering that apple has more than $100 billion in the bank. but i think this is a positive sign in terms of how many workers we're talking about here -- >> how many jobs? >> reporter:...
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egypt's economy is stagnant. getting the imf loan of $4.8 billion, $6 billion promised from the eu, and this money from us will matter a lot. at the end of the day, morsi has to deliver. morsi has to provide food and jobs and employment for his people. that's what will create buy in. >> jane, real quick, because we never have enough time, i want to quickly get your take on syria. secretary of state clinton meeting with the russian foreign minister as well as the u.n. envoy to syria. with so much concern about the threat of chemical weapons at this point, do you think there are any diplomatic options left? >> i think the play -- and hillary clinton met twice today with russian foreign minister lavrov -- is to get russia in the tent with the rest of the world. everyone has predicted, when facts on the ground change, russia will be there. this could be a reset moment for vladimir putin, and he could, because of his unique sway in the area, persuade, i would think, the bashar family to step aside and create a peacefu
egypt's economy is stagnant. getting the imf loan of $4.8 billion, $6 billion promised from the eu, and this money from us will matter a lot. at the end of the day, morsi has to deliver. morsi has to provide food and jobs and employment for his people. that's what will create buy in. >> jane, real quick, because we never have enough time, i want to quickly get your take on syria. secretary of state clinton meeting with the russian foreign minister as well as the u.n. envoy to syria. with...
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when americans spend, carol, the economy grows. that ends up translating to investors as being more confident. confident enough to buy into the market. since most 401(k)s closely track the s&p 500, this 10% to 15% rise cohen is expecting would be great for your retirement savings. if you start the year with, say, $30,000 and the index gains 15%, you're looking at almost $5,000 in gains. so it probably won't surprise you that the fiscal cliff, though, is a concern. but, you know what, cohen says even if the market is shaky at the start of 2013, the gains the second half of the year will make up for it. carol? >> that's a pretty rosie outlook. there must be a counter argument. all the other -- i hear such dire things. >> of course. you know, there are other big financials that release their outlooks, too, carol. most are generally positive, though. there are some pessimists out there. wells fargo strategists expects stocks to decline next year and points to slowing growth and uncertainty about the economy. expects just a modest gain
when americans spend, carol, the economy grows. that ends up translating to investors as being more confident. confident enough to buy into the market. since most 401(k)s closely track the s&p 500, this 10% to 15% rise cohen is expecting would be great for your retirement savings. if you start the year with, say, $30,000 and the index gains 15%, you're looking at almost $5,000 in gains. so it probably won't surprise you that the fiscal cliff, though, is a concern. but, you know what, cohen...
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first, let me tell you what's going right in the economy for consumers. there's a whole host of things. the job markets, 7.7% unemployment, the lowest in four years. you've got the housing market showing signs of recovery. rising home values in much of the country. gas prices, did you notice? they're down 46 cents over the past couple of months. they're expected to keep going lower and the dow is up 20 points now. the dow is above 1,300 and the s&p 500 is up 12% this year. so, what could go wrong? fiscal cliff. this is something weighing op consumer sentiment and we're starting to see it in the weekly -- look at this -- 39% said it would affect it some. they don't seem to have much faith in congress to fix it and any time except 11th hour and maybe a week into the new year and there's this payroll tax holiday that most people have been enjoying now for well over a year. almost two years now. it's about 20 for somebody who earns say $50,000, but they're getting extra because the payroll tax deduction has been changed a little. they're getting a break on th
first, let me tell you what's going right in the economy for consumers. there's a whole host of things. the job markets, 7.7% unemployment, the lowest in four years. you've got the housing market showing signs of recovery. rising home values in much of the country. gas prices, did you notice? they're down 46 cents over the past couple of months. they're expected to keep going lower and the dow is up 20 points now. the dow is above 1,300 and the s&p 500 is up 12% this year. so, what could go...
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could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not face to face. house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want to put it. we could, of course, face massive tax hikes, spending cuts. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it would all
could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market...